Notes:

3. John Robert (b. 1824, Washington County), who married Cecilia “Margaret” Columbia Gough (b. 1847, Marion County, Ky.) on May 30, 1865 in Marion County and later moved to Missouri. He had a son named John Robert Caldwell Jr.

1880 Washington, Monroe, Missouri, United States
Robert Caldwll Head Male 54 Kentucky
Columba Caldwell Wife Female 32 Missouri
Harrot A. Caldwell Daughter Female 14 Missouri
Sarah C. Caldwell Daughter Female 12 Missouri
Benedict J. Caldwell Son Male 10 Missouri
Mary E. Caldwell Daughter Female 9 Missouri
Alice B. Caldwell Daughter Female 8 Missouri
Nancy J. Caldwell Daughter Female 4 Missouri
James W Caldwell Son Male 2 Missouri

1900 Washington Township, Monroe, Missouri, United States
Robert Caldwll Head Male 75 Kentucky
Columba Caldwell Wife Female 52 Missouri
Benedict Caldwell Son Male 30 Missouri
William Caldwell Son Male 22 Missouri
Samuel Caldwell Son Male 17 Missouri
Alfred Caldwell Son Male 14 Missouri
Lillian Caldwell Daughter Female 11 Missouri

John married Margaret Columba Cecelia Gough on 30 May 1865 in Marion County, Kentucky. Margaret (daughter of Benedict Joseph Gough and Ann Rebecca Combs) was born on 22 Mar 1848 in Missouri; died on 16 Dec 1930; was buried in Hunnewell, Shelby County, Missouri, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

On 3/7/2020 11:21 AM, Ria P wrote:
> Mike, I guess that is what I get for going high-tech and trying to use the Snip tool!
>
> Let's try this. This is the trail from my parents to my great-great-great grandparents:
>
> Benedict Joseph Gough. DOB 11/11/1815, DOD 3/22/1856
> m. Ann Rebecca Combs DBO 6/22/1819, DOD 10/6/1950
> They are buried in St. Peter's Cemetery.
>
> Margaret Columba Cecelia Gough. DOB 3/22/1848, DOD 12/16/1930.
> m. John Robert Caldwell, DOB 11/21/1824, DOD 5/15/1915
> They are buried in Hunnewell, MO.
>
> John William Caldwell DOB 5/10/1878, DOD 10/19/1946
> m. Rosanna Riley DOB 12/13/1878, DOD 1/16/1958
> They are buried in the St. Mary's Cemetery in Shelbina, MO
>
> Loretta Caldwell DOB 3/15/1911, DOD 4/29/1996
> m. Sidney Warren Power DOB 1/6/1911, DOD 11/1/1975
> They are buried in the St. Mary's Cemetery in Shelbina, MO
>
> Kenneth Power DOB 6/18/1938, DOD 2/21/2016
> m. Harriett Albus DOB 9/12/1937, DOD 2/15/2008
> They are buried in the St. Mary's Cemetery in Shelbina, MO
>

Notes:

1850 Monroe County, Missouri Census
Benedict Gough 35 Farmer Kentucky
Ann R. Gough 32 Kentucky
Mary C. Gough 15 Kentucky
William H. Gough 10 Kentucky
Luisa E. " 7 Missouri
Leah A. " 73 Maryland
James Molder 26 Kentucky
Sarah Molder 23 Kentucky
Edwin Molder 3 Missouri

43. Gough, Benedict Joseph Son of John B. & Sarah ( )Gough of Ky. 1st wife - Ann R. Combs 2nd wife - Winifred Kendrick - 1 child B. Nov. 11, 1815 D. March 22, 1856 Age 40 yrs. 4 mos. 11 days

On 3/7/2020 11:21 AM, Ria P wrote:
> Mike, I guess that is what I get for going high-tech and trying to use the Snip tool!
>
> Let's try this. This is the trail from my parents to my great-great-great grandparents:
>
> Benedict Joseph Gough. DOB 11/11/1815, DOD 3/22/1856
> m. Ann Rebecca Combs DBO 6/22/1819, DOD 10/6/1950
> They are buried in St. Peter's Cemetery.
>
> Margaret Columba Cecelia Gough. DOB 3/22/1848, DOD 12/16/1930.
> m. John Robert Caldwell, DOB 11/21/1824, DOD 5/15/1915
> They are buried in Hunnewell, MO.
>
> John William Caldwell DOB 5/10/1878, DOD 10/19/1946
> m. Rosanna Riley DOB 12/13/1878, DOD 1/16/1958
> They are buried in the St. Mary's Cemetery in Shelbina, MO
>
> Loretta Caldwell DOB 3/15/1911, DOD 4/29/1996
> m. Sidney Warren Power DOB 1/6/1911, DOD 11/1/1975
> They are buried in the St. Mary's Cemetery in Shelbina, MO
>
> Kenneth Power DOB 6/18/1938, DOD 2/21/2016
> m. Harriett Albus DOB 9/12/1937, DOD 2/15/2008
> They are buried in the St. Mary's Cemetery in Shelbina, MO
>

Benedict married Ann Rebecca Combs in 1847. Ann was born on 22 Jun 1819; died in 1850; was buried in St. Peters Cemetery in Old Clinton, MO. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

42. Gough, Ann R. Daugh of James & ( ) Combs, of Scott Co., Ky. James was the 1st James Combs to come to Ky. from Md. 1st wife of Benedict Joseph Gough - 4 children

Notes:

Linda and Jim; I agree that the evidence seems point to JBG (MO) being the son of James and Susanna __________. That leaves two potential parents and one remaining JBG. If we assume that JBG (ScottCo)'s birth date is wrong, then he could fit with both JBG, Sr. and James III. If JBG (ScottCo) is the son of JBG, Sr. then if my math is correct, JBG Jr. and James III are first cousins. It would be perfectly logical for first cousins to travel together. Perhaps James, Jr. help raise JBG, Jr. after the death of his parents. And they were like brothers. The sole source for JBG (ScottCo) is his tombstone and we know it is in error. Darn, we need to verify that tombstone.

I'm working this material right now, but from what you've sent me, I agree that John Baptist Gough, b. 1767 was the son of James and Susanna. He did not serve during the Rev. War. He would have been too young.

2/1780: John Baptist Gough, orphan of James, over the age of 14, chose Vincent Norris as his guardian. Securities: Bennet Norris and John Baptist Raley. (Orphan Ct. Rec., Fenwick).

Proceedings of the Orphan's Court of St. Mary's County, Maryland, Book I, 1777-1801 by Charles E. Fenwick, Sr. for the St. Mary's County Historical Society.

Page 44 (quote exactly as listed in book)

GOUGH, John B. Feb 1780 Page 30
John Baptist Gough orphan of James Gough above the age of fourteen comes into court and makes choice of Vincent Norris his guardian who being present accepts of the same. Bennet Norris and John Baptist Railey securitys penalty L 10000 current money Bond taken.

I would assume that John Baptist Gough would have been between 15-18 years of age (1762-1765). That is if 18 was the break off year for being an orphan; not sure on the laws of the time.

Thanks,
Rose Hollingsworth

Whoever placed the tombstone at the site of the grave of John Baptist Gough in 1839 or perhaps much later, didn't know when he was born and tried to force-fit the John Baptist Gough who said he was born 2/29/1764. Linda Reno

Mike, for what its worth the book says Birth records at St. Andrew's Episcopal Church. This entry is for JBG the son of James & Susanna? (18 Feb, 1764)

The other JBG could have been born on 29 Feb. 1764 as is indicated on his Pension App. Just makes it more confusing.
Jim

This was another John Baptist Gough who also was born in St. Mary's Co., MD on 2-29-1767, d. 2-19-1839 Pius, Scott Co., KY, m. 6-1-1796 St. Mary's Co., MD Mary Jones b. 3-9-1770 MD, d. 6-16-1809 Scott Co., KY. This John Baptist Gough was the son of James Gough (1748-1826) and Susanna Medley (1746-1795). My 5th great Grandfather John Baptist Gough b. 3-29-1764 St. Andrews Parish, St. Mary's Co., MD was the son of James Gough (1728-1774) and Susanna. Michael Mudd

Ben Webb mentions in Centenary of Catholicity in Kentucky on pages 89 and 90 two John B(aptist) Goughs: "John B. Gough died in 1869, aged of 102. .... there were attached to the settlement in Scott (County) quite a number of others and of unmarried Catholics, the names of whom, as far as could ascertained were: John B. Gough, Jr., who died in 1828, at the age of 53 years:" .... MJG

Wood - Hall - Bentley - Greenwell
Entries: 11509 Updated: Thu Oct 10 14:45:08 2002 Contact: Dorothy Wood
Wood - Hall - Bentley - Greenwell
* ID: I857
* Name: John Baptist GOUGH
* Given Name: John Baptist
* Surname: Gough
* Sex: M
* Note:

John Baptist GOUGH (2/29/1767-1839) married 1st, Mary MEDLEY (b 1778; d 6/16/1809; age 31). Both buried at St. Francis Cemetery, Scott Co., KY
John married 2nd Sarah A. JENKINS (b 3/25/1777; d 4/29/1864; widow of Henry CLAVO who died 1808). Sarah is buried St. Peter's Cemetery, Old Clinton, MO.

John Baptist GOUGH & Mary Medley GOUGH children:
1st: Mariah GOUGH (1799-1873) m 1814 Benedict GREENWELL (1790-1875)
s/o Bennett GREENWELL. (See Benedict Greenwell)

2nd: Cecelia GOUGH (1801-1828 KY) m 1818 Barnaby WORLAND (1777 MD-1842 MO)
(1) John Henry WORLAND (1819-1903) m 1842 Ann Elizabeth GREENWELL (1824-1868) d/o Augustine Mills GREENWELL and Louisa TWYMAN. (see Ann Elizabeth GREENWELL Worland)
(2) Mary G. WORLAND (1821-1893) married 1st 1845 Robert COMBS (1810-1864) s/o James COMBS and Matlida SMITH (see Robert COMBS); m 2nd Robert BELL (1807-1875) s/o Joseph B. BELL & Helen THOMPSON
(3) James Guy WORLAND (1824-1898) m 1845 Sarah (R. or Jane) COMBS (1827-1888) (See Sarah Jane COMBS Worland)

3rd: Ann Melissa GOUGH married George ALLGAIER

4th: Catherine GOUGH m 1821 KY to John Middleton WORLAND (1800-1859).
No living descendants of this marriage. John married 2nd 1824 Susan PALMER.

5th: Matilda GOUGH (1808-1888 KY) m 1st 1825 Samuel MANNING (s/o John Henry MANNING & Ann GOUGH); m 2nd 1884 Stephen T. BURCH.

John Baptist GOUGH & Sarah A. JENKINS Clavro Gough children:
6th: James R. GOUGH (1812-1842) m 1939 Mary COMBS (1823-1855)
(1) John England GOUGH (baptized 3/11/1841; might of died 1858 in St. Louis)

7th: Benedict Joseph GOUGH (1815-1856) m 1st Ann R. COMBS (1819-1850, d/o James COMBS & Matilda Combs)

from Barbara Davis Greenwell papers
xxx

Linda and Jim; I found a copy of the 1810 ScottCo, KY census.
John B. Gough
1800-1810 1 Male, 8 females
1794-1800 1 Male
1766-1784 1 Male, 1 Female
Bef 1765 2 Females

It appears that Sarah had her own four? daughters. These following male Goughs are buried next to Mary and could be the two missing male children:

> 57 George Gough 1798 April 23, 1821
>
> 58 Henry Gough 1800 May 20, 1819
>
Are the names George and Henry the name of a grandfather?

There are two older women in the house. Mothers, aunts?

Do we have source that the B. stood for Baptist? Everything that I've seen says John B. Gough. I have seen this person referred to as John Benjamin Gough. Probably doesn't make a difference.

Another piece of this puzzle but not an edge piece.

Mike

Mike,

I found it also, did you notice just two lines above John B. was an entry for James Gough.

James had:

2 M 10 to 16
2 M 16 t0 26
1 M over 45
1 F 10 to 16
1 F 16 to 26
1 F over 45

Also found Cornelius Gough.

The 1820 census has John B., James & Ignatius.

1830 has only John B. with several small children.

1 M 5 to 10
1 M 10 to 15
1 M 15 to 20
1 M 20 to 30
1 M 60 to 70 If John B. was born in 1767 this would make him 63.
1 F 15 to 20
1 F 50 to 60

So where does this leave us, it proves there was only one John B. in Scott Co. at this time. I still don't feel that he belongs to James III, there is too much of a spread between John B.'s age and the other children of James III.

Jim

Doris DeSantis wrote:

>Henry A. Watson was b. 1814/ 1816 in New Hope ? Nelson or Marion Co. He m. Juliet Amanda nee Masterson b. 1820--- 1821 in New Hope KY. on Feb. 4th, 1845. Married by Robert Byers from Ministers returns . Juliet died March 19, 1887 age 67 in Gethsemane, Ky.Henry died circa 1877 age 60 . Both are buried at Trappist Cemetery in Gethsemane, Ky. ?? No Stones.
> Ann Mahala nee Greenwell Ballard was b. Feb.28th, 1814. m. William R Ballard 1838. These two were the parents of my grandmother, Ann Elizabeth (Nannie) nee Ballard Watson b. Dec.26th, 1857--died Sept. 2nd,1949 in New Hope KY. Henry A. Watson & Ann Mahala nee Greenwell Ballard are my brick walls !!
>
> Benedict Greenwell b.Sept.14th,1790 in MD.--died June 2nd 1875 in Concorida, KY. Meade Co. Married Mariah Gough b. June 16th 1799 in St. Marys Co. MD. Died July 10th, 1873, Meade Co. KY.
>Her parents were John Baptist Gough & Mary nee Medley Gough
> I have some more info. Who do you want to have more info on ?
> I am sending you a few pages on Greenwells. Let me know if you get them
> Doris

John married Sarah A. Jenkins after 16 Jun 1809. Sarah was born on 25 Mar 1777 in Maryland; died on 29 Apr 1864 in Old Clinton, Monroe County, Missouri; was buried in St. Peters Cemetery, Old Clinton MO. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

St. Peters Cemetery, Old Clinton MO
55. Gough, Sarah A. Wife of John B. Gough B. March 25, 1777 D. April 29, 1864 Age 87 yrs. 1 mo. 4 days

Linda Reno wrote:

> Geez.....
>
> What a way to start the day.
>
> I think what we've done here is find the other John Baptist Gough that I have no record on beyond 1756.
>
> 7/6/1756: Admin. accts. of John Baptist Gough, SMC. Sureties: Thomas Yates, Sr., Henry Jarboe. Received from: Joseph Alvey. Payments to: Philip Key, Henry Jernegan, John Baptist Bucknam, Thomas Manley, Richard Newton, John Shanks, Mev. Lock due Lord Baltimore, Mev. Lock, John Bond, John Finch. Distribution to: Widow, 1/3 (now wife of accountant). Residue to: James Gough (age 2); John Baptist Gough (age 1). Admin.: Thomas Yates. (Admin. accts. of the Prerogative Court of Maryland, Libers, 37-45, 1754-1760 by V. L. Skinner, Jr.). NOTE: This record is not on CD #206.
>
> I don't know the wife of John Baptist Gough (d. bef. 7/6/1756), but she married second, Thomas Yates. Donnelly says that his wife was a Yates, but the administration accounts show a distribution to the widow (now wife of accountant).
>
> I also have a Sarah Jenkins that might work. Henry Jenkins and Ann Greenwell had a daughter named Sarah.
>
> 10/27/1789: Admin. accts. of Henry Jenkins, SMC. Widow, 1/3. 7 children equally: George, Susanna, Henry, Eleanor, Henrietta, Thomas, and Sarah Jenkins. Admx.: Ann Jenkins. (SMC Balances and Distributions).
>
> George Jenkins, son of Henry Jenkins and Ann Greenwell, married first, Margaret Wise 3/31/1782 and second, Mary Heard, 2/2/1785. This George Jenkins moved to Bullitt Co., KY.
>
> If you have it, could you give a list of the children that you might have for John Baptist Gough and Sarah A. Jenkins?
>
> Linda

Notes:

Linda Reno's comments:

Mary Medley was born November 14, 1768 (not 1778).

Since Mary Medley died in 1809, Sarah Jenkins would have had to have been a second wife, not a first.

You have no birth date for Ann Melissa Gough, but according to the 1850 census, she was born in KY in 1805.